The Day After Angel: You're Welcome

[mishalak]

Well I've got to say that I didn't see that ending coming. I should have, but hey I did have enough foresight to see the big talking to each other scene that exposed Lindsey (He was just being too cute with the calling himself Doyle thing, bound to cause him trouble). Here are my thoughts on the rest of the season. The big bad whatisit is still down in the W&H basement, I expect it will be back later on because it isn't just going to quietly sit there as loose plot end. Also we never did learn what Eve wanted and she is far from vanquished, does anyone think that security will keep her our if she really wants in? The Senior Partners are not just sitting around doing nothing. They only gave Angel & Co. the LA branch because they think that by doing this they can bring about the apocalypse. I expect they are setting things in motion against Angel and I would not be surprised if it involved Lindsey. They didn't kill him on the spot after all. That could just mean a lot of torture before they kill him, but very likely torture and then being set back as their tool.

Oh and I'm still trying to figure out how Angel & Co. are going to get out of the law firm. The Senior Partners can't/won't take it away. They are apparently very letter of the law about their contracts. It belongs to Angel & Co. However as is obvious from the fact that they have a Whatisit in the basement just for him that doesn't preclude killing him off. And they could too, if they feel like they have to. Angel is just a vampire with a soul, nothing precludes that happening again. It would just be a major setback for them, not the end. Certainly they don't want to delay their project, but they will if they have to.

Oh and now that Cordy is actually dead, where did her visions go? Did they die with her or did they go elsewhere? And does that mean we will have a new player on the board shortly?

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[armoire-man.livejournal.com]

Argh!

I'm not reading it! I'm not reading it! I'm not reading it!

I'm not pushing the big, red, candylike button! No, no, no, no, no!

(I gotta watch the tape of last night's episode. And the one before that. Soon!)

Re: Because I'm Evil

[mishalak.livejournal.com]

I laugh at your predicament. Or something like that.

[bibliofile.livejournal.com]

I see what you mean about both Eve and Lindsay, but I doubt we'll see much more of Lindsay now that his evil plan has been foiled. There may be other stuff involving Eve, but for me the big question is whether she *really* was the go-between for the senior partners. I think she was merely Lindsay's accomplice, though I could be wrong.

I thought that Cordy's reappearance was far more important, seeing as how she was a loose end left over from *last* season -- and (besides Angel himself) the only other character from the very start of the series. Could her visions be moot now that the gang can get lots of cues directly involving W&H, its clients, etc.? Yes, it'll be interesting to see how they deal with that.

Re: Sometimes They Come Back

[mishalak.livejournal.com]

I think I can still count the number of villains who have walked away alive from Buffy or Angel without going over two dozen. Those that have never come back in subsequent seasons to be finally killed or dealt with is even smaller.

The Survivors(still alive at the end to first season they appeared in):
Lindsey, Lila, Harmony, Spike, Drucilla, Ethan, Anya, Invisible Girl, The Electric Thief, the other Vengeance Demon, Dehaffalon (sp?), Warren, Jonathan, Andrew, Faith, and The First Evil.

Of the ones that are not dead due to later actions we have four who have sorta or completely reformed, including Spike, Andrew, Faith, and Harmony. Plus Anya, who reformed, relapsed, reformed and finally died.

And out of fifteen, only seven are still alive and still evil as far as we know. Only one, the Invisible Girl has never appeared again. Ethan is in government custody, The Electric Thief was not that evil and finally got what she wanted, The First Evil is unkillable, and we just saw Lindsey. Drucilla and Dehaffalon appear to be the only killable bad guys still totally on the loose.

I may have left some out, but my point is that villains who are not dead tend to come back for another round. And even a few who are dead get in a few more appearances. I'm just suspicious that Lindsey will be back, and I think it likely it will be this season.

Re: Sometimes They Come Back

[mix-o-choc.livejournal.com]

You know who I think would be an intersting crossover bad guy? "Glory" or Glorificus ... she can take a beathing that girl and shes cute. Though I don't know if Buffy killed her or merely sent her back where she came from. I'm all confused now.

Re: Sometimes They Come Back

[mishalak.livejournal.com]

Actually she just beat up Glory. Giles actually killed her by killing the human she was bound to. He's one badass our Ripper.

Re: Sometimes They Come Back

[mix-o-choc.livejournal.com]

hmm ... true and her human form was way cute! how could he! anyways ... yeah cute boys are evil

[iamcompubear.livejournal.com]

It was so sad I cried at the end.

just a thought here - speculation

[aylinn.livejournal.com]

um - doyle passed the visions to her with a kiss.

and that was a pretty hefty smootch...

if Angel gets the visions rather than Spike, then that would alleviate his doubts as to being the one.

or would it? maybe it would mean he's now second fiddle to Spike the way doyle & cordy were to him.

hee, hee

Re: just a thought here - speculation

[mix-o-choc.livejournal.com]

Hang on didn't Spike sacrifice himself on the Buffy series?

Re: just a thought here - speculation

[mishalak.livejournal.com]

Yep. And as part of a plot by Lindsey & Eve he was brought back, first as a ghost and then all the way.

Re: just a thought here - speculation

[mix-o-choc.livejournal.com]

why do the evil ones heve to be so cute?

[mix-o-choc.livejournal.com]

Cordelia dies? Aww ... I liked her. Her character actually got more interesting once she got more involved in the action rather than just being the ditsy cheerleader spinoff hanger on from Buffy. I'm thinking that maybe Lorne could get the visions cause he's already predisposed to being a telepath yadda yadda and is a demon. It'd be interesting too if Angel ends up with Faith or maybe Buffy since she doesn't really have a hell of a lot to do anymore since she called up all those slayers and Spike is fertilizing the daisies. That'd be cool if there was a "dark slayer" vs "true slayer" fight to compete for Angel's affections. And what of Conner? He's a hottie just itching for a new series spinoff. Personally I'm watching to see if Willow or Giles get a spin off series too as rumoured.

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[mishalak.livejournal.com]

I would explain, but I suspect you would hate me forever for spoiling the surprise.

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[mix-o-choc.livejournal.com]

Maybe, you never know ... we're alot behind here in Australia. Angel inverstigations just took over W&H and angel disapeared to help Buffy. I'm guessing you've already seeen the season they're going to release here soon hopefully.

[armoire-man.livejournal.com]

Damn...Cordy is "really" dead. Having kissed Angel.

I was very sad, partly because Cordy has always hung in the back of my brain as MIA, not *dead*. Also because Charisma Carpenter showed that she has more acting chops than I gave her credit for, and is maturing rather than just wasting away or ditzing out. So, of course, they permanently take her out of the picture. Bastards.

I hope Lindsey stays away. I'm just darned tired of him. The series "Angel" and Wolfram and Hart in particular seem built on bland macho men surrounded by more interesting characters, and Lindsay was about as bland and macho as they come.

I am in the interesting position of having beloved spouse walk through the basement to the laundry room when I'm watching 5th season Angel with her fingers in her ears going "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!" because she wants to watch the whole thing *in order* and not be surprised prematurely. Jeez.