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Rather than detecting our radio waves first wouldn't an alien civilization, if at all curious about the possibility of life elsewhere, detect our planet first? Think about it. Unless we run into some unexpected problem we are likely to have built instruments capable of directly imaging planets nearby to our own before the end of the 21st century. Perhaps even before 2040.

So as I see it there are four possibilities.

One, there is a civilization of technologically advanced aliens that has been observing us using very powerful telescopes. If within 100 or 200 light years of earth they probably suspect the fact that we have a technological civilization based upon measuring the changes in our atmosphere brought on by industrialization. They might be deciding or have already sent a message on this basis and SETI could detect it at any time.

Two, there is a species of intelligent aliens within 100 light years of us, but they have yet to advance to technological civilization. We will detect their planet using our telescopes sometime in the next century and then keep the planet under observation. If they advance to technological civilization anytime after this and we're still watching we'll detect it, suspect what is going on, and then send a message of our own hoping they'll detect it.

Three, there are intelligent aliens, but they aren't interested in discovering life elsewhere. They've either turned inward after achieving technological civilization, or are not that interested or capable of technology. We'll discover their planet if close to ours in the next century, but we won't be able to guess they are there or even if we do we won't be able to contact them.

Four, the most likely possibility, is that there are no intelligent aliens anywhere close enough to earth to ever be detected.

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Date: 2009-07-30 08:58 pm (UTC)
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Maybe the aliens have discovered Earth and noted the atmospheric composition, roughly, and so they know the planet is life-bearing but they can't be sure it has a civilization. CO2 and aerosol effects could be interpreted as "natural" - rising levels of volcanism, climate change, and so on. So the mainstream alien planetologists have pegged Earth 210 light years away as a life-bearing planet but only the fringe alien planetologists actually believe what they see is civilization.

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Date: 2009-07-31 11:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pompe
Assuming the alien civilization knows what to look for. We're sort of doing the easy thing to assume another civilization will develop like we did and that we'll mirror them. What if the aliens went technologically advanced themselves without a large rise in fossil fuel use? What if their signatures of civilization would be, I don't know, say, evidence of wide-absorbtion photosynthesis in oceanoculture?

Or even worse... ...maybe the aliens can't scan thousands of planets continously. So the readings of rising CO2 levels might be decades, even centuries apart, and instead of doing more surveys they'd simply blame the old records on old unreliable instrumentation and put it in a Maybe pile.

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