Gay Guy Rant
Apr. 25th, 2004 09:15 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
mishalakOkay what is it with the guys who whine about not being able to find another "straight acting" guy? I mean if you're really that straight acting no wonder you can't spot each other down at REI. I'm there too and apparently you can't even spot me and according to many of these "gay" Republicans I'm way too flamey. I am beginning to suspect that these guys aren't actually gay, they're just robots built by the RNC to stand over there for the photo op to show that the Republican party isn't actually that homophobic.
And I mock you Log Cabin Republicans if you're reading this. I'm probably twice as masculine as the lot of you. I'm not afraid to act as I please and live as I want. If you think I'm a Nellie then you really ought to be dragged to a Pride Parade to show you the real definition of that stereotype. Oh you don't go to Pride Parades because of all the weird queers you don't want to be associated with? Nothing but drag queens you say? Well no wonder you coward, you're not there!
Go back to your nice well lit closets you FAGS!
And I mock you Log Cabin Republicans if you're reading this. I'm probably twice as masculine as the lot of you. I'm not afraid to act as I please and live as I want. If you think I'm a Nellie then you really ought to be dragged to a Pride Parade to show you the real definition of that stereotype. Oh you don't go to Pride Parades because of all the weird queers you don't want to be associated with? Nothing but drag queens you say? Well no wonder you coward, you're not there!
Go back to your nice well lit closets you FAGS!
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Date: 2004-04-25 08:46 am (UTC)<G>
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Date: 2004-04-25 08:31 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-04-25 06:14 pm (UTC)A Str8 Rate
Date: 2004-04-25 10:30 pm (UTC)Think of the 60's. What was accomplished? Except to prove liberals are the most conservative group in existence. If a woman stands up and dares to question the vocal minority's agenda, the woman acts with courage when ridiculed. When a black man with a dream stands up and dares to condemn violence and preach non-violence, he is condemned as weak. When a soldier is in a prison camp (being tortured) and is confronted with an American actress; and, then, remains loyal to his solitary conviction, he is a true hero. What is the radical response to such people? What are these minorities subjected to? Your type of rants. Why can't you practice your own philosophy? Let a person contribute in as much as they can in their own way. Allow them to be them. Allow tolerance to an opposing view. By all means, your opinion is of value and important to be heard and considered. But, do not the opinions of others hold the same value as yours? Damned it, the radical 60's are over and the radicals lost! Get over it. Learn from it. Learn from the winners and not the loser.
Consider the SUCCESS of American Revolution. The Americans learned military tactics from the native. Americans would hide behind trees, rocks and brush. When the red coats would approach, the Minutes Men would jumps out, shot and run. However, in order to gain the support of the Old World nations, Americans were told to fight battles according to the Rules of Battle and War. According to your rant, Washington was a closeted hypocrite. I think I would be with the rest of the world, treating and tolerating such a closeted hypocrite with my support and vote. If a gay agenda is to succeed, the group must unite according to the Rules of Ideas and Compromise.
Concerning the Gay Pride Parade. You must explain what is in it to be so proud. The Parades I attended in San Francisco show a group of people identifying themselves according to their bedroom; while, at the same time, telling the world not to be in their bedroom. I am one who will be tolerant of your bedroom as long as you keep it off the streets. Once you bring it onto the streets, I believe it fair game for commentary, whether it is positive or negative. And, in the spirit of tolerance, allow the negative the same civil right to disagree without being labeled, ridicules and hated. So many gay activist suffer from true hetrophobia, while the natural allies of heterosexuals (and even homosexuals) are ridiculed and harassed if they dare question tactics done in the name of the "big tent of diversity". A True Gay Pride Parade would be far better served if your "Log Cabin" were allowed to join and to be comfortable to be as they are. And, the closet gay be allowed to be proud of themselves as they are. Many gay friends have told me on so many occasions, "The most intolerant group I have - really - ever met are my gay, lesbian, transgendered, bisexual friends / lovers." Mathew, I know you, I have met you, I have spoken with you. Down deep you are a tolerate young man. Down deep you are a good man. Down deep you need to find balance and see justice. And, Mathew, I will never berate you. You never deserve berating. But, on a scale of 1 to 10, your rant is above a 9 but not quite 10. And, Mathew, I allows love you! (Kisses and Hugs)
Re: A Str8 Rate
Date: 2004-04-26 12:23 am (UTC)However I think there is very, very little possibility that I am wrong that this particular whiny individual needs a good metaphorical slap to wake him up to the fact that the reason that he doesn't see any other gay guys hanging out at REI is not because we're all limp wrested posers who just like to say that we go hiking, but that we're not in our club wear when we're shopping at REI. (I keep mentioning that recreational equipment store because that's the example he used with me. I actually do have a membership with the REI co-op and shop there with some regularity.) That the reason he has so damn much trouble finding his ideal straight acting mate is because they're both too straight acting to recognize each other as gay.
Also I take issue with your description of the success of the American Revolution. It was not from learning from the native as much as that became part of our national mythology. We won because the locals going for the revolution were able to involve an outside power that got involved for reasons of its own. The French did not help us win the war; they won the war for us. There was only one battle where the legendary irregular forces made up of farmers armed with muskets won the day. Trained regular army forces, either American or French, won all the rest. It simply is not true that the minutemen and the yeoman farmers won the war.
I've already ranted against what I consider the poorly planned action for gay marriage in California in comparison with the methodical success of the action in Massachusetts, so I won't repeat it all.
I only bring that up to say that I recognize the value of choosing the time to fight when we are best assured of success. However that does not excuse the action of the sunshine gays, the ones happy to enjoy the fruits of previous victories, but unwilling to lend a hand in the work left to be done and indeed to join the Tories of your analogy in return for a monetary reward. It is all well and good to not let ones politics be dictated by a single subject, but to get behind individuals who want to amend the constitution against us?
Now the really important bit.
Finally you are wrong, I am not a tolerant individual. I am a supporter of tolerating a different range of behaviors, not that we should tolerate all behaviors. While I will grudgingly and unhappily tolerate people like Christian, Islamic, Jewish, or Whatever Fundamentalists I do not accept them and I do not wish to have any more to do with them than absolutely necessary. If they are willing to do the same for the rest of the people living in the civilized society, I'm fine, but if they do not do the same for all the rest of us then they must be isolated from power.
In addtion you should not confuse toleration and my willingness to defend their right to say whatever the hell they want (even though I thnk it wrong) with being free from criticism. Just because I might tolerate a gay voting Republican doesn't mean I won't roundly disapprove of supporting the one of the two corrupt parties that most clearly seeks to amend the constitution against us. Bloody Tories.
On the subject
Date: 2004-04-25 10:56 pm (UTC)Re: On the subject
Date: 2004-04-26 12:54 am (UTC)What would I say to a teen? The same thing I would say to a straight teen wanting to have sex. It is probably a better idea to wait until he is 18, but if he does it he must use a condom and read up about the subject before he does. Better experience for him and a better experience for his partner male or female. There are a number of online guides I'd recommend. Also not to worry about sexual feelings one way or another because starting up with sex is confusing to all of us. Turned on by X? That doesn't mean anything unless he finds himself more often turn on by that X over a long period of time.
Finally if he does decide that he is gay or bisexual or whatever it is a lot safer to tell his parents once he is safely out of the house and won't become unexpectedly homeless for coming out. I know too many guys who have lived as homeless teens because they came out to think it is a good idea if even one of a teen's parents is homophobic to any extent. If both his parents are fairly liberal on the subject, then it is okay to bring up the subject them.
Re: On the subject
Date: 2004-04-26 07:01 am (UTC)Re: Critic At Large
Date: 2004-04-26 06:01 pm (UTC)Been waiting to see more stories appear. Anything in the works?
Re: Critic At Large
Date: 2004-04-27 02:42 am (UTC)Used'ta be a time...
Date: 2004-05-02 02:53 pm (UTC)