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Since the beginning of the organized study of murder the rate has mostly fallen. Recently in the United States it was as low as 1.2 per 100,000 in the State of Maine and only 5.7 for the United States as a whole. In large cities the known murder rate is as high as 45 per 100,000 for some inner city areas. On the face of it then it would seem easiest for a population of vampires to live in the inner city and hide their victims among the other murder victims. But on further analysis that might be too quick an assumption.

According to the FBI "In 44.5 percent of murders, the relationship of the murder victim to the offender was unknown. Of the 55.5 percent of murders in which the victim/offender relationship was known, 77.6 percent of the victims knew their assailants." This means that at least 43% of all murders are the interpersonal sort rather than just another anonymous victim turning up in the river or whatever. Plus would the vampire victims be found at all? I suspect that any vampire that survived a long time would not leave his victims about or else he'd stand out as a severe spike in the murder rates of even a large city.

Consider this. If the assumption were made that a vampire needs to feed almost every night but only finishes off a person after a week that's an average of 52 victims a year. Even if he were doing this in downtown D.C. he's be a full 20% of the known murder victims by himself. I think some epidemiologist (people who study diseases in a statistical way, yes even murder, it is a sort of disease after all) would notice if there were a vampire creeping about murdering people in the shadows. But that's just if the vampires are hiding behind murder.

There is limited information available about missing persons as it isn't a crime, per say. However in the states for which I can find statistics the numbers are interesting. In Iowa 7,116 total reported missing, a fair number several times. Of these 6,127 were juveniles and 909 were Adults. At the end of a year only 4% had not been located, with a bit more than half of those being adults. That would seem to offer the possibility of having a lot of people for a vampire to disappear. Some 284 in the state of Iowa with a population of just under 3 million or 9.7 per 100,000, much higher than the murder rate. But according to California they ended up with only 124 out of 27,929 reported as "unknown". Though I do wonder about the 1,172 reported as "voluntarily missing". Is that known or just assumed? After all that number is very close to Iowa's 4% uncleared after a year number.

So what's a vampire to do? Well what if the lurid number of one a week (or one every three days in some traditions) is a bit high? Well blood donation is limited to once every 56 days (eight weeks) for each unit (one pint) of blood. However in the guidelines for autologous donation of blood (for your own use before planned surgery) call for one unit a week for up to six weeks (the limit of blood storage). It would seem then that with sufficient iron intake a donor could survive being food for a vampire provided no more than one unit were taken each week for eight weeks even under conservative numbers. And it might well destroy his health after a year, but if you're a vampire this is no time to get squeamish, but it might be possible to limit yourself to an average of just seven victims a year and that would be a lot easier to hide as various sorts of missing persons or murders than 52. And that's assuming that the vampire needs one donor for every day of the week. The numbers become a lot easier if it is just once a week, no more need to play Casanova every night.

Certainly it seems that in ancient times he could easily hide among other wasting diseases, unexplained disappearances, and just plain old vanilla murder, but in modern times he's not out of the woods yet. After all unless the book is in the tradition of Buffy or Vampire: the Masquerade where people seem to have either enormous powers of denial or the vampires control the government the secret is going to leak out at some point. And then vampires have to worry about packs of government (or other groups) agents with machine guns and mirror shades that keep their mesmeric powers from working.

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Date: 2005-02-11 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] forunlawfulck.livejournal.com
What if the vampires are the Tale Of The Body Thief Lestat variety, in that they do not need to kill their food, and can even drink from them without them noticing?

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Date: 2005-02-11 02:31 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mishalak.livejournal.com
Well that's unfair cheatin' type writing. Vampires not killing is like wolves not bringing down elk. Under my assumption of one standard unit per time period that's still between 365 and 52 donors a year. That's a lot of seduction or whatever the vampire's method is to find someone.

If vampirism is illegal that's still going to cause a great deal of trouble. I mean how often do you think a person recovers the memory despite the mind games later on? After all you're leaving a lot of people in your wake; some 12775 over a 35 year period. If it fails even just one tenth of one percent of a time that's around one person every two and a half years. How long until one of them gets angry enough to do something about it?

If legal I suspect the mind games would be illegal to roll a person's mind unless consensual and so just as big a problem. Though if a vampire is just good a playing the scene, so to speak, he'd probably be able to have enough one night stands to satisfy the hunger with just vampire groupies.

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Date: 2005-02-11 05:12 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mishalak.livejournal.com
Writing is for telling a good story. One type of story I like is where the consequences of something are explored and I don't think that's been done fully with vampires. The Laurell K. Hamilton stories have gone a little bit that direction, but also suffer for making the vampires so overpoweringly masterful that humans don't stand a chance. So I'm looking how big a difference vampires could make and still have a mostly recognizable modern world.

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Date: 2005-02-11 06:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] forunlawfulck.livejournal.com
I will have to look into the Hamilton stories. I love books that explore the "what if they really do exist" possibility.

This is mildly related...

Have you ever visted www.drinkdeeplyanddream.com ?

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Date: 2005-02-11 07:49 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mishalak.livejournal.com
It always amazes me that there are so many mentally ill people who can put up websites. I suppose it shouldn't; after all they've distributed tracts about how the government is hunting them using mimeographs for years. The silliest of them are good for idea mining if you're writing conspiracy theory stuff, but that one is almost impossible to read and boringly ordinary as self consistent delusions go. By his measures I'm a frelling vampire since I like blood sausage and don't like the sun.

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Date: 2005-02-11 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] superplin.livejournal.com
Have you read Vampire Population Ecology (http://smokeping.planetmirror.com/pub/papers/vampecology/vampecology.htm)?

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Date: 2005-02-11 03:19 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mishalak.livejournal.com
Yes I have, and it was terribly useful to model a town like Sunnydale where the murder rate gets ignored due to Hellmouth effects. Excellent paper and I enjoyed it a lot. But for modeling a world where vampirism isn't ignored it is not so great. Remember Trick's infamous comment, "makes D.C look like Mayberry!"

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Date: 2005-02-11 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nancylebov.livejournal.com
Presumably, a vampire that just stole blood from a blood bank wouldn't be interesting as anything but a one-liner, but suppose the vampire has a favorite victim. In that case, the vampire could restock the victim with blood bank blood, and not be limited to taking a measly unit now and then.

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Date: 2005-02-11 07:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mishalak.livejournal.com
Actually blood banks would be pretty bad. They're unusual places to be robbed, so by virtue of being unusual they'll make the news.

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Date: 2005-02-20 08:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottscidmore.livejournal.com
Is it acceptable to not have a vampire derive all its nutrition from blood, but just some particular needs that a small or occasional amount of blood would satisfy? This reduces the feeding every night requirement.

Or what if it's not food, but some other function? Say :

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6980861/?GT1=6190

In either case, the vampires that get reported or caught tend to be those who go to extremes, equivalent to human gluttons; or those who enjoy torturing their victims.

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Date: 2005-02-20 08:56 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mishalak.livejournal.com
Interesting, but too scientific. Vampirism is a form of magic and it conforms to rules of magic rather than being a virus or whatever. Vampires need to take life, though not all of it, in order to keep the magic that prevents corruption of their body and keeps them animated going.

Even if they were able to somehow able to limit how much physical blood they took by somehow straining out the magic from it there would still be negative effects upon the person. They'd mysteriously drop dead one day of no apparent physical aliment.

Magic isn't free and so I figured that vampires actually need blood. I derived my numbers on how often a vampire needs a donor from what I thought reasonable for a predator that would not totally overwhelm their prey with dead, but still result in the odd death here and there. Unless vampires can find a way to have willing donors and not have to hide their activities so strictly that it is better to kill a person than let him talk.

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